{"id":5073,"date":"2012-05-21T10:26:45","date_gmt":"2012-05-21T10:26:45","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.masterorganicchemistry.com\/?p=5073"},"modified":"2024-12-12T11:01:22","modified_gmt":"2024-12-12T17:01:22","slug":"acid-base-reactions-are-fast","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.masterorganicchemistry.com\/2012\/05\/21\/acid-base-reactions-are-fast\/","title":{"rendered":"Acid Base Reactions Are Fast"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><strong>Acid-Base Reactions Are Generally Faster Than Substitution Or Addition Reactions\u00a0<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Here is a <strong>very<\/strong>\u00a0common dilemma in organic chemistry as you move through the latter parts of Org 1 and then into Org 2:<\/p>\n<p>When more than one reaction is possible, how do you know which one will happen?<\/p>\n<p><strong>In a steel cage match between an acid base reaction and other types of reactions, which wins?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>In this post we postulate a good rule of thumb to keep in mind: <strong>acid-base reactions are fast, relative to other reactions.\u00a0<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Here are three examples &#8211; and by the way&#8230;\u00a0 <strong>these are common trick questions for exams!\u00a0<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><img fetchpriority=\"high\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone wp-image-38632\" src=\"https:\/\/www.masterorganicchemistry.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/0-summary-acid-base-reactions-are-fast-at-heteroatoms-n-and-o-because-of-the-principle-of-least-motion-no-reorganization-of-atoms.gif\" alt=\"summary acid base reactions are fast at heteroatoms n and o because of the principle of least motion - no reorganization of atoms\" width=\"640\" height=\"530\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p><strong>Table Of Contents<\/strong><\/p>\n<ol>\n<li><a href=\"#one\">Acid-Base vs Nucleophilic Substitution Reactions (S<sub>N<\/sub>2 reactions).<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"#two\">Acid-Base Reaction vs Addition To A Carboxylic Acid<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"#three\">Grignard Reaction To A Molecule With A Hydroxyl Functional Group<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"#four\">Why Acid-Base Reactions Are Fast: The Principle of Least Motion<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"#notes\">Notes<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"#references\">(Advanced) References and Further Reading<\/a><\/li>\n<\/ol>\n<hr \/>\n<h2><strong><a id=\"one\"><\/a>1.<\/strong> Acid-Base vs Nucleophilic Substitution Reactions (S<sub>N<\/sub>2 reactions).<\/h2>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone wp-image-27039\" src=\"https:\/\/www.masterorganicchemistry.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/08\/1-acid-base-reactions-are-fast-relative-to-sn2-reactions-alkyne-and-alcohol-will-deprotonate-alcohol-first.gif\" alt=\"acid base reactions are fast relative to sn2 reactions alkyne and alcohol will deprotonate alcohol first\" width=\"615\" height=\"370\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Here, note that our nucleophile (the conjugate base of an alkyne, pK<sub>a<\/sub> 25) can remove the proton of an alcohol (pK<sub>a<\/sub> ~15) or perform an S<sub>N<\/sub>2 reaction on the primary alkyl halide.<\/p>\n<p>With a difference of <strong>10<\/strong> pK<sub>a<\/sub> units between the alkyne and the alcohol, the acid-base reaction between the deprotonated alkyne (&#8220;acetylide&#8221;, stronger base) to produce a deprotonated alcohol (&#8220;alkoxide&#8221;, weaker base) is extremely <strong>favorable<\/strong>.<\/p>\n<p>And since acid-base reactions are fast, relative to other reactions, the preferred first reaction here is deprotonation of the alcohol to give the conjugate base (&#8220;<strong>alkoxide<\/strong>&#8220;)<\/p>\n<p>Bonus question: what would be the <strong>final <\/strong>product of this reaction, after the deprotonation? Answer below [<a href=\"#notetwo\">Note 2<\/a>]<\/p>\n<h2><strong><a id=\"two\"><\/a>2. Acid-Base Reaction vs Addition To A Carboxylic Acid<\/strong><\/h2>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.masterorganicchemistry.com\/2015\/12\/10\/reactions-of-grignard-reagents\/\"><strong>Grignard reagents<\/strong><\/a> are very good nucleophiles &#8211; reacting with carbonyl compounds such as ketones, aldehydes, and esters. But as the conjugate bases of alkanes (pK<sub>a<\/sub> ~ 50) they are also extremely <strong>strong<\/strong> <strong>bases<\/strong>.<\/p>\n<p>When combined with a carboxylic acid (pK<sub>a<\/sub> ~4 or 5) the result is <strong>not<\/strong> an addition to the carbonyl, but an <strong>acid base reaction<\/strong> (45 pK<sub>a<\/sub> units makes for a pretty favorable reaction!).<\/p>\n<p>It&#8217;s always helpful to remember that <strong>carboxylic acids<\/strong>\u2026 are <strong>acids<\/strong>!<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone wp-image-27040\" src=\"https:\/\/www.masterorganicchemistry.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/08\/2-acid-base-reactions-are-fast-relative-to-carbon-carbon-bond-forming-eg-grignard-reaction-with-carboxylic-acid.gif\" alt=\"acid base reactions are fast relative to carbon carbon bond forming eg grignard reaction with carboxylic acid\" width=\"615\" height=\"360\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<h2><strong><a id=\"three\"><\/a>3. Grignard Reaction To A Molecule With A Hydroxyl Functional Group<\/strong><\/h2>\n<p>The same applies for reactions of Grignard reagents with molecules that have hydroxyl groups in addition to\u00a0 aldehydes or ketones. If merely one equivalent is added, the first thing to happen will be <strong>deprotonation<\/strong> of the alcohol, which is faster than addition to the ketone carbonyl carbon.<\/p>\n<p>It&#8217;s only after addition of a <strong>second<\/strong> equivalent of Grignard that <strong>addition<\/strong> to the ketone will occur.<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone wp-image-27041\" src=\"https:\/\/www.masterorganicchemistry.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/08\/3-grignard-reaction-with-beta-hydroxy-ketone-acid-base-reaction-happens-first-then-addition-to-ketone-because-acid-base-reactions-are-fast-relative-to-carbon-carbon-bond-forming.gif\" alt=\"-grignard reaction with beta hydroxy ketone acid base reaction happens first then addition to ketone because acid base reactions are fast relative to carbon carbon bond forming\" width=\"615\" height=\"396\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>So what&#8217; s going on?<\/p>\n<h2><a id=\"four\"><\/a>4. Why Acid-Base Reactions Are Fast: The Principle of Least Motion<\/h2>\n<p>What&#8217;s going on here is an application of a handy principle in chemistry called the <strong><a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Principle_of_least_motion\">Principle of Least Motion<\/a>.\u00a0<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Simply stated, it&#8217;s this.<\/p>\n<p>Acid-base reactions on &#8220;heteroatoms&#8221; (<span style=\"color: #993366;\"><em>that means atoms other than carbon,\u00a0 such as O, N, and S<\/em><\/span>) generally require very little <strong>reorganization<\/strong> of the nuclei in the structure after loss of a proton.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Therefore these reactions are fast<\/strong>, relative to reactions where the nuclei have to move or be reorganized.<\/p>\n<p>Think about removing a proton from an O-H.<\/p>\n<p>After loss of hydrogen, the oxygen gains a new lone pair.<strong> But its hybridization doesn&#8217;t change<\/strong> &#8211; it started as sp<sup>3<\/sup>, and it&#8217;s still sp<sup>3<\/sup>. So the nuclei (other than the H, of course) don&#8217;t significantly change positions in these reactions. <strong>No extra atomic motion<\/strong>, in other words.<\/p>\n<p>However when bonds are formed or broken at carbon &#8211; such as in the S<sub>N<\/sub>2 reaction or in additions to carbonyl carbons &#8211; a lot of atomic furniture has to get rearranged.<\/p>\n<p>For instance, the S<sub>N<\/sub>2 proceeds through a <strong>backside<\/strong> <strong>attack<\/strong>, which means that the geometry of the molecule changes from <strong>tetrahedral<\/strong> to <strong>trigonal bipyramidal<\/strong> (that&#8217;s the \u00a05-coordinate transition state) <strong>and then back to tetrahedral.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>In <strong>addition reactions to carbonyl compounds, we&#8217;re changing the hybridization of carbon from sp<sup>2<\/sup> to sp<sup>3<\/sup>.<\/strong> That requires a shift from trigonal planar to tetrahedral geometry.<\/p>\n<p>Extra atomic motion means it will be a <strong>slower<\/strong> reaction, relative to an acid-base reaction.<\/p>\n<p><strong>\u00a0Bottom line:<\/strong> acid base reactions on oxygen, sulfur, or nitrogen are fast. So long as the acid base equilibrium is reasonable [<a href=\"https:\/\/www.masterorganicchemistry.com\/2010\/09\/29\/how-to-use-a-pka-table\/\">How to use a pKa table<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.masterorganicchemistry.com\/2012\/05\/17\/a-handy-rule-of-thumb-for-acid-base-reactions\/\">a handy rule of thumb for acid-base reactions<\/a>] do them first.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.masterorganicchemistry.com\/2012\/05\/30\/acid-base-reactions-whats-the-point\/\"><strong>Next Post: Acid-Base Reactions &#8211; What&#8217;s The Point?<\/strong><\/a><\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<h2><a id=\"notes\"><\/a>Notes<\/h2>\n<div class=\"related-articles\"><p><strong>Related Articles<\/strong><\/p><ul><li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.masterorganicchemistry.com\/2010\/09\/29\/how-to-use-a-pka-table\/\" class=\"\"><span>How to Use a pKa Table<\/span><\/a><\/li><li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.masterorganicchemistry.com\/2012\/05\/17\/a-handy-rule-of-thumb-for-acid-base-reactions\/\" class=\"\"><span>A Handy Rule of Thumb for Acid-Base Reactions<\/span><\/a><\/li><li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.masterorganicchemistry.com\/2012\/04\/25\/walkthrough-of-acid-base-reactions-3-acidity-trends\/\" class=\"\"><span>Walkthrough of Acid-Base Reactions (3) \u2013 Acidity Trends<\/span><\/a><\/li><li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.masterorganicchemistry.com\/2010\/09\/22\/five-key-factors-that-influence-acidity\/\" class=\"\"><span>Five Key Factors That Influence Acidity<\/span><\/a><\/li><li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.masterorganicchemistry.com\/2011\/04\/12\/what-makes-a-good-leaving-group\/\" class=\"\"><span>What makes a good leaving group?<\/span><\/a><\/li><li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.masterorganicchemistry.com\/2012\/07\/04\/the-sn2-mechanism\/\" class=\"\"><span>The SN2 Mechanism<\/span><\/a><\/li><li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.masterorganicchemistry.com\/2022\/09\/09\/nucleophilic-addition\/\" class=\"\"><span>Nucleophilic Addition To Carbonyls<\/span><\/a><\/li><li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.masterorganicchemistry.com\/organic-chemistry-practice-problems\/acid-base-practice-problems\/\" class=\"\"><span>Acid Base Practice Problems (MOC Membership)<\/span><\/a><\/li><\/ul><\/div>\n<p><a id=\"noteone\"><\/a><strong>Note 1.<\/strong> It&#8217;s interesting that Grignard reagents (the conjugate bases of alkanes, pK<sub>a<\/sub> ~50) don&#8217;t usually deprotonate the alpha-carbon of aldehydes (pK<sub>a<\/sub> ~18) or ketones (pK<sub>a<\/sub> ~20).<\/p>\n<p>That&#8217;s another application of this principle. Removing a proton from an aldehyde or ketone requires breaking a C-H bond, and the resulting base (called an &#8220;enolate&#8221;) will undergo a change in hybridization from sp<sup>3<\/sup> to sp<sup>2<\/sup>. Therefore, it&#8217;s slow.<\/p>\n<p><a id=\"notetwo\"><\/a><strong>Note 2<\/strong>. After the first acid-base reaction, the deprotonated alcohol can then do an S<sub>N<\/sub>2 reaction on the primary alkyl bromide.<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter wp-image-14162\" src=\"https:\/\/www.masterorganicchemistry.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/11\/F1-footnote-after-deprotonation-alkoxide-forms-and-then-intramolecular-ether-reaction-occurs.gif\" alt=\"F1-footnote-after-deprotonation-alkoxide-forms-and-then-intramolecular-ether-reaction-occurs.\" width=\"525\" height=\"131\" \/><\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<h2><a id=\"references\"><\/a>(Advanced) References And Further Reading<\/h2>\n<ol>\n<li><strong>The Principle of Least Nuclear Motion<\/strong>.<br \/>\nHine, J.<br \/>\n<em>Advances in Physical Organic Chemistry<\/em>, Academic Press, Volume 15, <strong>1977<\/strong>, Pages 1-61.\u00a0 ISSN 0065-3160.<br \/>\n<strong>DOI<\/strong>: <a href=\"https:\/\/doi.org\/10.1016\/S0065-3160(08)60117-3\">10.1016\/S0065-3160(08)60117-3<\/a><br \/>\nIn this book chapter,\u00a0 Prof. Hine of The Ohio State University reviews the principle of least ncuelar motion. Particularly notable is the graph on page 40, which shows that HCN has the lowest barrier to deprotonation of any carbon-based acid, consistent with a small change in internal geometry.<\/li>\n<\/ol>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Acid-Base Reactions Are Generally Faster Than Substitution Or Addition Reactions\u00a0 Here is a very\u00a0common dilemma in organic chemistry as you move through the latter parts <\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":38632,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_acf_changed":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[1407],"tags":[163,177,688,586,825,244,254,641],"post_folder":[],"class_list":["post-5073","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-acid-base-reactions","tag-acidity","tag-basicity","tag-conjugate-acid","tag-conjugate-base","tag-nucleophile","tag-nucleophilicity","tag-pka","tag-trick-questions"],"acf":[],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v27.7 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/product\/yoast-seo-wordpress\/ -->\n<title>Acid-Base Reactions Are Fast (Compared To Substitution And Addition)<\/title>\n<meta name=\"description\" content=\"In a steel cage match between an acid base reaction and other types of reactions, which wins? 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