Comments on: Antiperiplanar Relationships: The E2 Reaction and Cyclohexane Rings https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/2012/10/18/the-e2-reaction-and-cyclohexane-rings/ Sat, 18 Apr 2026 11:22:06 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.9.4 By: James Ashenhurst https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/2012/10/18/the-e2-reaction-and-cyclohexane-rings/#comment-724452 Tue, 21 Jan 2025 19:07:42 +0000 https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/?p=6345#comment-724452 In reply to KD.

Thanks for this. Sorry for the absurdly late reply, I fixed quiz 2400 so that it shows a ring flip before the elimination reaction. Hopefully it’s more clear now!

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By: James Ashenhurst https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/2012/10/18/the-e2-reaction-and-cyclohexane-rings/#comment-724451 Tue, 21 Jan 2025 19:06:55 +0000 https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/?p=6345#comment-724451 In reply to Varad sinari.

On a secondary alkyl halide, especially one adjacent to two methyl groups, elimination will be by far the dominant product.

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By: KD https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/2012/10/18/the-e2-reaction-and-cyclohexane-rings/#comment-697567 Sun, 23 Jun 2024 14:12:05 +0000 https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/?p=6345#comment-697567 Hey!Got stuck in a point,you say that the Br needs to be axial in order to go through E2,but crap in the 4th question of your quiz the methyl cyclohexane without any axial Br does goes through E2.I understand that it works out because of being anti-periplanar,but please,I think it will be best to be less specific about the Br being axial in some parts of the Reply is highly appreciated.

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By: AK https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/2012/10/18/the-e2-reaction-and-cyclohexane-rings/#comment-603368 Sun, 11 Jul 2021 14:40:23 +0000 https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/?p=6345#comment-603368 For an axial CH3 and Br group in cyclohexane ring, the E2 is slower, and the reason you why is because “equilibrium position lies more to the other chair conformation (with LG and CH3 in equatorial), not the required chair (with LG and CH3 in axial)”, so by kinetics, rate is slower as concentration of required chair is lower.

But in other places, the reason said is because the “transition state for the chair having CH3 and Br in axial position is more unstable, so activation energy is larger”.

Which explanation is correct?

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By: medicine french student https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/2012/10/18/the-e2-reaction-and-cyclohexane-rings/#comment-572879 Wed, 11 Dec 2019 09:30:06 +0000 https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/?p=6345#comment-572879 Wow that was very helpful thanks a lot!

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By: James Ashenhurst https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/2012/10/18/the-e2-reaction-and-cyclohexane-rings/#comment-565322 Fri, 27 Sep 2019 02:39:39 +0000 https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/?p=6345#comment-565322 In reply to Fish.

Draw it out. It would still be 4-methyl cyclohexene, so it can’t be a constitutional isomer. Does it look superimposable on the *other* 4-methyl cylohexene? : – )

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By: Fish https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/2012/10/18/the-e2-reaction-and-cyclohexane-rings/#comment-564057 Sun, 15 Sep 2019 03:00:34 +0000 https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/?p=6345#comment-564057 Your explanation and pictures are very helpful, thank you. But with the elimination products, the other unshown product is not enantiomer but a constitutional isomer, isn’t it? I’m afraid if I understood something totally wrong. :(

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By: James Ashenhurst https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/2012/10/18/the-e2-reaction-and-cyclohexane-rings/#comment-563269 Thu, 05 Sep 2019 18:36:12 +0000 https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/?p=6345#comment-563269 In reply to Nata.

Glad you find the website helpful Nata!

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By: James Ashenhurst https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/2012/10/18/the-e2-reaction-and-cyclohexane-rings/#comment-562174 Thu, 29 Aug 2019 20:42:58 +0000 https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/?p=6345#comment-562174 In reply to Shaurya.

It’s safe to assume the t-butyl group will prefer to be equatorial. With respect to the 1-bromo group, E2 will only occur when the Br is axial. So you’ll have different rates of reaction for cis- and trans- 1-bromo-4-t-butylcyclohexane, since one will have an axial Br when t-butyl is equatorial, and the other will only have an axial Br when the t-butyl is axial. You can determine for yourself which elimination will be faster. The situation is further complicated with 1-bromo-2-methyl-4-t-butyl cyclohexane depending on the stereochemistry of the methyl group.

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By: Shaurya https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/2012/10/18/the-e2-reaction-and-cyclohexane-rings/#comment-530974 Sat, 14 Apr 2018 20:15:24 +0000 https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/?p=6345#comment-530974 Can you explain dehydrohalogenation in 1-bromo-2-methyl-4-tertiarybutyl cyclohexane

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