Comments on: Bredt’s Rule (And Summary of Cycloalkanes) https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/2014/09/02/bredts-rule-and-summary-of-cycloalkanes/ Thu, 07 May 2026 14:57:58 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.9.4 By: James Ashenhurst https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/2014/09/02/bredts-rule-and-summary-of-cycloalkanes/#comment-775967 Tue, 14 Oct 2025 16:41:18 +0000 https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/?p=8447#comment-775967 In reply to Shubhankar.

Hi – the issue is not that nitrogen can’t be on a bridgehead (it can – see compounds like quinuclidine and DABCO which are good bases) it’s that the lone pair on the nitrogen will not have good overlap with the p orbital on an adjacent carbon, which means that bridgehead amides will have very little C-N double bond character.

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By: Shubhankar https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/2014/09/02/bredts-rule-and-summary-of-cycloalkanes/#comment-775186 Thu, 09 Oct 2025 14:17:44 +0000 https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/?p=8447#comment-775186 Hi Sir ,

Please explain that in a particular compound if Nitrogen is located at bridgehead position so is it able to donate it’s lone pair ? Is it basic ?
And if basic then you said sp2 carbon cannot be formed on bridgehead position so how and why nitrogen is able to donate it’s lone pair easily .

Source:(JEE MAIN 2025 4th April Evening Shift)
Please tell me sir

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By: James Ashenhurst https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/2014/09/02/bredts-rule-and-summary-of-cycloalkanes/#comment-715879 Thu, 14 Nov 2024 18:12:58 +0000 https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/?p=8447#comment-715879 In reply to Doddling Duck.

Good question. I don’t think the new paper changes things all that much, but it’s a good addition to the literature.

I think the message from the new paper is that and olefins do form, but they just happen to be very unstable at low temperature and can be trapped.

Kind of like how cyclobutadiene can be formed at very low (35 K) temperatures but spontaneously dimerizes.

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By: Doddling Duck https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/2014/09/02/bredts-rule-and-summary-of-cycloalkanes/#comment-715449 Mon, 11 Nov 2024 16:40:05 +0000 https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/?p=8447#comment-715449 Does this article need an update now or is this Nature post impractical hype? “Chemists make ‘impossible’ molecules that break 100-year-old bonding rule” (https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-024-03538-4)

McDermott, L. et al. Science 386, eadq3519 (2024). https://doi.org/10.1126%2Fscience.adq3519
Chan, T. H. & Massuda, D. J. Am. Chem. Soc 99, 936–937(1977). https://doi.org/10.1021%2Fja00445a042

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By: Saumya https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/2014/09/02/bredts-rule-and-summary-of-cycloalkanes/#comment-598818 Wed, 17 Mar 2021 09:38:15 +0000 https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/?p=8447#comment-598818 It is really helpful. Thanks a lot sir for such an awesome and detailed explanation :)

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By: James Ashenhurst https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/2014/09/02/bredts-rule-and-summary-of-cycloalkanes/#comment-586245 Fri, 16 Oct 2020 19:53:05 +0000 https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/?p=8447#comment-586245 In reply to Pragna.

Fixed. Thanks Pragna!

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By: Pragna https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/2014/09/02/bredts-rule-and-summary-of-cycloalkanes/#comment-583504 Tue, 18 Aug 2020 10:01:29 +0000 https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/?p=8447#comment-583504 *carbonyl carbon. (under bridgehead amides) :)

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By: James Ashenhurst https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/2014/09/02/bredts-rule-and-summary-of-cycloalkanes/#comment-581054 Wed, 10 Jun 2020 17:00:46 +0000 https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/?p=8447#comment-581054 In reply to Rajan.

Absolutely not! No backside attack possible.

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By: Rajan https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/2014/09/02/bredts-rule-and-summary-of-cycloalkanes/#comment-581051 Wed, 10 Jun 2020 16:25:55 +0000 https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/?p=8447#comment-581051 SN2 is possible at bridge head carbon or not?

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By: James Ashenhurst https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/2014/09/02/bredts-rule-and-summary-of-cycloalkanes/#comment-558280 Mon, 15 Jul 2019 17:53:41 +0000 https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/?p=8447#comment-558280 In reply to Alexa.

2-quinuclidone, or 1-azabicyclo[2.2.2]octan-2-one

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